On 5 December, the Chaplain-President, Secretary-General and Second Secretary attended a meeting at the handsome Ambtswoning van de Vlaamse Regering building in Brussels to enable the presidents and secretary-generals of the Recognised Convictions to meet Paul Van Tigchelt (the new Federal minister of Justice, therefore responsible for the Recognsied Convictions at the national level) and Gwendolyn Rutten (the new Flemish minister of the Interior, therefore responsible for the Recognised Convictions in Flanders). A very comprehensive and full conversation occurred on the Israel-Hamas war, the societal impact of the Recognised Convictions, the forthcoming Belgian Presidency of the Council of the EU. The Central Committee looks forward to continuing this conversation with Minister Van Tigchelt on the Conseil du Dialogue and with Minister Rutten on the VILD.